Something is seriously wrong with the ladies in Lebanon. How did we manage to get so superficial? And I’m not talking about your typical Lebanese bimbo, I’m referring to smart young educated ladies in this country that have put their morals and values to rest and opted for the rich man.
Yes, the rich man, he may not be as good looking as Samer in accounting, and sure his Ferrari puts Tarek’s Mazda 6 to shame, but who cares. The fact of the matter is Samer and Tarek are good genuine down to earth men that will love you just the same, hek maybe even more, since they won’t have pet names for you and their cars!
But lately I’ve noticed an alarming trend, young women are settling with dumber, uglier, super rich guys, they wanna upgrade, they wanna quit their jobs, they want sportscars, they want that their shares in the country club and they don’t wanna have to work a day for it.
A friend of mine who I’ve always thought was normal,calls me, out the blue to announce that she is getting engaged on Friday. Last time I checked she was single. She had met him at Music Hall, he’s 36, drives a Audi Q7 and works in construction. He’s also bald, overweight and has hair growing out of his ears.
The worst part of it all is her trying to convince me she’s in love. You know what, if this is the path you choose, so be it, but trying to convince me that your in love with SHREK because“ albo tayeb” rather than his shares in Sodeco, spare me and Drop it as fast as you dropped your self respect, there is no such thing as a bonafide gold-digger. Bisoux
jay says
“..works in construction. He’s also bald, overweight and has hair growing out of his ears.
sounds to me it’s you who lacks self-respect. what’s wrong with people who work in construction, overweight or bald, they’re probably more genuine than you’d ever be!
Jihad Beydoun says
i’m sure she doesnt mind if he’s bald, and overweight, but what she means is that her “friend” comes out, OUT OF THE Blue with this new guy and suddenly her friend is “in love” with him.
while i’m sure ivy thought that that man would not be her friends type.. but my friend money changes people !!
Sean says
LOL you just hit the nerve babe!!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Coming from a woman, it means so much to me hahahhaha I’ve been saying that for a while now and been hit with comments like : ” you r just jealous” or the famous one:” Albo tayyeb”.
bass do you blame them? sara7a… I would do the same if i was a girl… why would a successful educated smart girl settle for a normal life style with a normal guy in a small apprtement and a fair amount of money monthly, while bimbos and hoes are getting all the rich men, and driving the best cars, having the most expensive bags, and traveling the world…. you see… it’s a social malfunction…. ppl dont get married to make a family anymore…. they get married to compete socialy… and show off their grand prize.
u heard of a trophy wife…. well in Lebanon Men are becoming Prize Husbands….
and that my dear Ivy is the truth….
😉 cheers
Liliane says
Dear Ivy,
I don’t want to get all smarty panty on you. First of all know that, I reaaaaaaaaaaaaally get you and your frustration 🙂
But you know in life we have to
1- try not to judge people
2- try to understand what made them do that, especially that as you said there is a trend here.
Let’s try to see the source, the background, the financial status, etc.. etc.. why do you think young educated ladies are going for rich people (looks & job type shouldn’t pose a problem).. think about it, and write a post 🙂
Bob says
Great post.Nice to see women saying this for a change…
Fadi says
The first sign something is wrong is what Ivy pointed out, women are increasingly becoming gold diggers who want too many things too fast without having to work for them.
The second sign, which is even worse, is when men (looking at you Sean) think it’s alright for women to do that, and follow in the trend.
What we’re ending up here is guys (the term Men seems wrong here) who would do anything to get rich, so that they could end up with bimbo gold-digging wives they can show off.
Interesting…
Ivy says
“Let’s try to see the source, the background, the financial status, etc.. etc.. why do you think young educated ladies are going for rich people (looks & job type shouldn’t pose a problem).. think about it, and write a post”
Gosh Liliane I appreciate your opinion but I ain’t a sociologist nor a psychoanalyst and if I had to do all that digging before I write a post that came to mind- then I should be a writer not a blogger- why don’t you go for it on your blog!
I say things the way I see him and will continue to do so.
I’m sorry if I offended any bald fat guys but when you take things out of context- that’s what happens.
Come on guys- lets own our faults and stop trying to be so politically correct- that’s the only way we can overcome!
Bisoux
Ivy
Sean says
Fadi bro, I am not saying it’s alright… I am just saying that it’s there… enno we r living it.
but yeah we r trying to get richer… it’s the way of life man… the more successful you are the better your life “can” get. (keyword: can)
but the part i am worried about is… Women are showing off their Husbands not vice versa! hahaha 🙂 where are we going in this society??
Ivy Keep your Honesty babe! 🙂 that’s why I follow your blog! full throttle in-ur-face Reality! I love it.
if a guy is bolding (like me :D) he should shave it off… Embrace it! hehehhe and if he’s fat, work out and Diet…
Liliane Darling, it’s not the looks of the guy… it’s the bigger picture… let’s call the guy skinny and full of zits… better? hehehe it’s idea that counts!!
why girls are going for richer men? I dunno, let’s ask a few…
Fadi says
Lilo, you might have a point, but regardless of the reasons it is happening, this trend stinks, and “educated” women should know better.
Sean, if people in Lebanon focused more on being happy than being rich, we’d have a whole other situation on our hands. Lebanese society has narrowed down its definition of happiness to money and social status, which often enough come hand in hand. Of course it’s there, it’s been there for a while too, but it doesn’t mean it’s the way it should be.
Fat and bold man who works in construction says
Hi all,
I am a rich, fat and bald man in the mid 40’s.
I own a couple of buildings currently in construction and am looking for a pretty young woman to marry.
If you’re interested please send me an email on: richfatbald@hotmail.com
Liliane says
Ivy, hmm seemed like you were kicking me off your blog or something 🙂 I meant it to be a constructive critic ivy, and a person doesn’t have to be a sociologist or writer to realize that they shouldn’t judge too soon.
Appears I ticked you off, wasn’t my intention at all. But no worries, I won’t tick you off anymore 🙂
Keep blogging
Abzzyy says
Dear Ivy ,
first let me start by : xoxoxoox
2 – Seriously ??? as in seriously ???
I mean, aside from the typical lebanese bimbo, that is apparently very easy for u to detect … what flashing led says im smart im educated but yet im a gold digging whore that will settles for anything as long it will get me whatever i desire?? and anything here is not an insult since it comes with a Q7 or an Audi R8, shares here and there and you know, the whole 9 yards…
on what basis ur assuming that we have a trend ?? (other than ur so called inlove with a bald guy smart friend of urs?)
and if he wasnt bald, lets say he is a walking sex bomb with high IQ and a successful career, would ur smart educated friend, or any smart educated woman for that matter, sitll be considered a gold digging whore?? 🙂
(easy on the judgments sugar)
xoxoxo
Maya says
I’m with Ivy all the way on this. Guys, you know perfectly well what she meant. She doesn’t have anything against construction or bald people. It’s only an example to say “this guy is not the hottest guy on earth – and yet the girl fell for him out of the blue” – which raises questions. I think this is a sad, sad thing happening in our society. I blame educational systems and parents.
Simon says
What you’re describing in your post is simply, in most cases, the lebanese up-bringing which encourages that. A girl, since she’s young, is encouraged to look at the guy for not who he is, but for his fortune, or who his dad is, and which family he comes from.
As an australian who goes to lebanon every year, i see this always! i know many girls who, while dating other guys, have broken up with them and married a guy from overseas because he has money, or comes from a “good” family.
The sad thing is that most pple don’t see anything wrong about this. “Bravo, tel3it shattoura…” or “She landed her self a good husband,…” my favourite “Natertou snin la y2asis 7alou w yjib beit”. What happened to working TOGETHER to “2asis beit”.
Aussie mentality is a lot better and less abusive! a couple here work together to build a future, in lebanon a girl wants a guy with a future, a package la2ta!
Girls, don’t get offended, notice is said MOST, not all. I’ve met many wonderful girls who wouldn’t care if you were the richest in the world. But in general, girls (and guys) are very superficial and show offs in lebanon… i’ve been all around the world, and never seen pple light up firework on a champaign bottle just to get their names mentioned, and then they don’t open it,… they simply return it!
Simon says
@Sean, “why would a successful educated smart girl settle for a normal life style with a normal guy in a small apprtement and a fair amount of money monthly, while bimbos and hoes are getting all the rich men, and driving the best cars, having the most expensive bags, and traveling the world…..”
a successful educated smart girl wouldn’t even consider such materialistic things or wait for a guy to set her up to give a life worth living, if she was really successful, educated, and smart, she’d have the self dignity to make herself and set herself up.
Wouldn’t you, as a working class man (i know i am one), respect a girl who is financially independent, capable of looking after herself? What makes me laugh is the mentality 2ennou iza she’s capable of supporting herself, ye3ni she doesn’t need her husband anymore w byekbar rasa! el shab baddou el benit like his car, shiny and to look good with her.
also, u said urself, a girl who takes a guy for his money and cars is nothing but a bimbo and a hoe! the sad thing is that money makes it acceptable.
Sean says
yeah , we men LOVE indenpendant women! … Ivy was stressin on the lack of those, therefore she was shedding light on this trend.
maybe girls became like this because Men want them to be, or maybe it’s the other way around.
I am as annoyed as you can get by this… but I am also realistic, I meet girls like that all the time, and the crazy part is you start wondering “when did that happen??”
… I am not talking about hoes and bimbos no, I am talking about girls normal smart good looking still in Uni or just graduated and they want to have a rich boyfriend!! it’s an attractive lifestyle and in our society (unfortunately) it’s considered the Creme de la Creme life style.
I am only saying that I kinda understand why they would want that, I am not saying it’s ok.
I wouldn’t mind winning the lottery anytime! that’s how it is nowadays.
Simon says
@Sean, tonight is the 40million AUD lottery here in sydney! i’ve got a ticket… wish me luck my friend, if i win, i’m goin to lebanon to get married 🙂 hehehe
I get wat ur saying, it is a very attractive lifestyle
Sleepless Beirut says
I’m a girl, beautiful, educated and I love what I do. Since I started looking at boys, I’ve been constantly told that, “I should marry a Prince” (take it to mean one with a Porsche instead of a white horse).
I would never marry a man just for his money, it’s out of the question.
But frankly, I am used to a certain lifestyle, and I think I was spoiled as a child on purpose, to ingrain the want of luxury in me. Hence, I probably wouldn’t marry a man for whom I would have to give up that lifestyle. Let’s face it, after the first few years, when passionate love goes on holiday, little conflicts would start exploding here and there, they would build up and…who knows, the worse could happen.
So yes, I hate to admit it, but money is an issue that I take into account. What I also take into account is this guy’s passion for what he does, his motivation. If I believe in him and what he does enough, then he doesn’t have to be sweating gold. I’d honestly rather witness the success while being by his side. It happened with my parents and their friends, and I think their relationships remained strong because of that, because they were a part of it (even if the mother stayed at home, she witnessed the sweat and tears put into the corporate machine).
As for my role in this, I would love to contribute and I probably will for as long as I can. But seeing how the salaries and opportunities vary so much for females, I am sceptical to the idea that I will be bringing in enough to make so much of a difference.
I also know that I want to raise my children and not some housekeeper. Hence, I would want to be a stay at home mom for the first couple of years.
Work is important to me personally, it makes me feel purposeful. Perhaps I wouldn’t give it up entirely, but if I were to, I know that I would grow increasingly agitated in no time. And that would make me a grumpy wife and a bad mother. I hope I will be able to find a compromise when the time comes.
Sean says
and how come you find good mothers and loving wifes that dont live your lifestyle???
I am sorry this is BS.
your “lifestyle” is a competition with other ppl that have your same lifestyle.
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but I don’t blame you, it’s the rich parents… even when parents start poor and become rich, they spoil the kids so they grow up with no value for money. You would feel happier in a Porsche than a Honda, you’d feel happier with a LV Bag than a fake one. that’s not happiness… because you’ll never have enough.
where does it say that a husband has to give a lavish lifestyle? what happened to in sickness and health? rich or poor? how come ppl dont marry for just being with someone? when did that become not enough?
How do you expect guys to keep up with it? I had the same conversation with another girl that goes twice a year to Paris, London, Milan for shopping she spends TENS of THOUSANDS of Euros…. I mean let’s face it… how much does a very successful guy make per month? 5k? 10k?
how will he be able to provide and at the same time satisfy this weird taste? I mean if he has a house, and he has a car, will he be able to give his wife 3 or 4 months worth of work money so she can satisfy needs??
This is BS!
but again I dont blame you, and if u r saying u r from a well off family, you gonna marry a well off guy…. Rich marry rich…
and on a good note, whatever you bring to your future family is a plus, wether it is a penny or a thousand! u r showing that you love your man enough to stand by him. witnessing tears and sweat doesnt count!! hehehhehe 😉
Sleepless Beirut says
Dear Sean, you instantly assumed that I’m super rich. I come from a normal middle-class family. Some of my childhood memories include not having food in the fridge. But that was back then. Now, our family is lucky enough not to worry about paying their bills, and yes, we can afford certain luxuries that most of the general population only dream about. I used to dream about them too.
I do consider myself very lucky and even though I have admitted to being spoilt, I think we both have very different definitions.
I understand my parents wish for me to marry into a “good” family because they do not want their children to go through the same hardships that they had to endure.
But like I said, I would never marry for the money. But I wouldn’t marry someone who wouldn’t be able to provide for us. I wouldn’t marry someone I didn’t get along with either. I wouldn’t marry someone I didn’t love either. The point I’m trying to make is that I wouldn’t jump into a marriage without first thinking about the future. One has to be realistic. And on the note of “lifestyle” – nobody wants to regress. But hey, if the comforts I’ll have to give up are going to be recompensated with something else, material vs. value, I wouldn’t pass up that option either.
Sleepless Beirut says
Just out of curiosity…if you could afford a Porsche, and I really mean AFFORD, wouldn’t you give up your Honda? 🙂
Honestly. (And yes, you have enough money to have a comfortable house, provide for your parents, travel and donate to charity).
Fadi says
I’m going to try to make this quick.
From what I read so far, Sleepless it seems to me that you should know, from personal experience, that money comes and goes.
I’m saying this because you mentioned that sometime in your childhood you’ve been in a situation where there was very little food in your fridge, and now you can afford certain luxuries that most Lebanese can only dream of.
Now just like your parents with blood, sweat, tears and luck managed to build up on their financial situation, the world is full of examples where families got less lucky, and no matter how hard they tried, fell down the financial ladder.
Of course, it’s only instinctive not to want to settle for less than you have, but then it’s a matter of how you measure “what you have”.
I might be wrong on this one, but I get the impression that marriage is like an investment to you, where you besides your man while he provides and builds a life for the family. Personally, I see it as a partnership. You seem to measure contribution in terms of financial merit. It is in fact so much more, and the stronger the partnership, the stronger the chances for happiness.
Yes I say happiness, not success, because you might be surprised how happy you could be in a fulfilling relationship, even with a modest income.
As to your last comment about the Porsche, I don’t think you meant to compare marriage to purchasing a car. If you did, I believe you look at men as a means to “trade up”, and well, that means the time I spent writing this comment was a complete waste of time.
Cheers !
Sean says
If I can afford a porsche a yacht a private jet a mansion and more, 😀 why the hell would I settle for anything less than a supermodel????? hahahah
but Seriously, You might think I am crazy but I consider somehow successful; I drive a fancy car. but somehow I found life easier in Beirut on a Scooter (more precisely a Vespa) 😀 do you want me to compare the looks I get from girls on my Vespa, to the looks I get when I’m in my Range Rover? heheheheh they r pricelesssss… one girl once told me:” YI MA3AK MOBILETTE!!!” HAHAHH
what I mean is… sometimes building a family fills u with happiness more than having everything provided to u and not have to worry about anything. the simple things in Life.
but I still wouldn’t mind winning the lottery anytime, 😉 so I totally get ur point.
(PS: I can afford a Porsche but I wouldnt trade it for my Vespa :P)
Simon says
@Fadi, mate u got it right. Marriage in lebanon is all just an investment!
The poor average looking guy/girl has to settle with wat they got. A poor,hot, good looking girl has a chance with a rich guy, if she hides her poor family from his sight. etc..
Girls don’t want to take part in building a future with a guy, they want a guy with pre-built future. God forbid u expect a girl to help her fiancée buy an apartment together! yiiii hayda mannou rejjel. There’s no happiness in both paying for a place, living together sharing bills.
87% of men in lebanon can’t afford real estate in jounieh, or beirut without a 20 year loan, good luck getting married guys!
Also girls, anyone can take a loan and buy a fancy car, just don’t forget that.
girls, all i can say is grow up, you live in a world where you will have to take financial responsibilities. you can’t be daddy’s girl for ever, or keep looking for a daddy like figure to marry.
Sean says
IVY … you just opened Pandora’s box here 🙂 hehehe
Sean says
hahahahah Dude you rock! 😀 hail the visitor from abroad.
BeirutBoy says
Ok so we’re talkin about the ladies. And yes there are lots of them who are gold diggers for sure!
But there are lots of men out there who are not lookin for love too. They’re lookin for a “suga momma”. She pays for his gas. She pays for dinner. She even goes down on him! He’s not in love. He’s also a gold diggin whore.
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